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    Quote Originally Posted by scubaliz View Post
    I guess that depends on how you define "better."
    I hope prices will be affordable for everyone (not just the wealthy Dutch and American tourists and property owners who don't depend on an island wage to live day-to-day).
    Hi Liz...Well let me clarify (at least from what I've been told). The Albert Heijn is a higher end grocery store in Holland. So by "better" I meant higher quality, more choices, more variety etc etc. I'm going to guesstimate like "Trader Joe's" in the states since I've never shopped at one in Holland. They carry many of their own brands. For us and many others who want higher quality produce and choices this is a welcome development. There will be many many local jobs created, and it will be a large economic expansion for the island. Personally I believe it's a win-win scenario. More tax revenue for the government, more jobs for those who reside on Bonaire, and more choices for consumers.

    As far as prices being affordable for everyone at A.H. frankly I suspect not. However there is still Cultimara, Warehouse, More for Less & countless small mom & Pop stores available on the island. More choice is good for all.

    I was watching the ongoing construction last week and the store will be huge by Bonaire standards. Things seems to be progressing rapidly.
    We are definitely looking forward to shopping there next winter!
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    Default Albert Heijn ??

    Ooooo - an Albert Heijn in Bonaire ?? I know these supermarkets from the NL ; generally good quality, and reasonably priced. Sounds good !! Does anyone know if they sell Old Amsterdam cheese in the Bonaire outlet ?? Yum!!

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    Sounds like the big box store chains have found Bonaire. I suppose it was inevitable. What's next? Walmart?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiverVince View Post
    As far as prices being affordable for everyone at A.H. frankly I suspect not. However there is still Cultimara, Warehouse, More for Less & countless small mom & Pop stores available on the island. More choice is good for all.
    I respectfully disagree. More choice (read: higher end and more expensive goods) are only good for those with the ability to pay. The rest of the folks will have to make due with what is left over for them.

    But, goodie! I can buy gourmet cheese and meats, while those making an island wage likely won't be able to shop there (at least not for the first year or two, if what a previous poster indicated was the norm in Curacao). Sounds like merely more choices for people like you and I, Vince...what a perfect way to preserve Bonaire's rapidly disappearing sense of identity and specialness.

    I simply cannot wait for the cruise ship terminal to be built, too. Then I won't have to ever be deprived of my luxury good shopping fix when the urge strikes...even when I'm on the island. I can wear my new Dior bikini while nibbling on rare caviar. Yippee for me.

    Life truly is good, and will soon be even better on Bonaire. Lucky us.
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    sounds great. like a lot to choose from. just go from one to another down the line. nice to have variety.

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    Scubaliz, I'm surprised a major supermarket would survive on an island like that, if the locals cannot afford it. How often do tourists grocery shop? If the locals who can afford it, like you, dislike it, you can always boycott and put it out of business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scubaliz View Post
    I respectfully disagree.

    Life truly is good, and will soon be even better on Bonaire. Lucky us.
    Well that's OK Liz, we'll still be friends. We are approaching this from what I suspect are very different philosophies on/of life.

    Our first visit to this small desert island was over 25 years ago, and frankly back then I wouldn't invest a penny into it. It was a scraggly island with poor infrastructure, extremely EXPENSIVE restaurants & poor quality food and service. It did have great diving which supplied the impetus for our visit.

    There have been and will continue to be many beneficial changes on the island, at least IMO. I welcome with open arms the ability to be able to purchase better quality fruits, vegetables, produce, meats etc.

    As you realize we live in a capitalist society (as do the Dutch) and life isn't always fair for everyone. In fact in reality it's far from "fair".

    Yes, the salaries/wages on Bonaire are much lower and the cost of living is higher. But there are other benefits to living/working on Bonaire, just ask the folks who do live there. No one holds a gun to anyone's head and demands that they leave Holland or the US to work on Bonaire. It is their own free choice. And as I indicated earlier, choice is a good thing.

    Personally I have not chosen to work there but choose to be domiciled in the states for a variety of reasons. Yes, economics is indeed one of them. I do suspect this is a discussion to be had sometime over a beer (however I will NOT purchase Polar due to my anti Chavez socialist sentiment). Perhaps sometime in the future!
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    Sorry to disappoint you Scuba Liz but you will need to source your glitzy, designer swimwear, and caviar elsewhere; Albert H is not exactly Fortnum & Masons ; it is a 'middle of the road' type supermarket, catering for all types of people (inc students and back packers doing 'the European Tour' thing)- all budgets, not an upmarket affair! Good quality fresh stuff, clean and tidy, but not grand in any way ....
    I fail to see how introducing a Dutch supermarket to Boanire will 'Americanise' the island... a bit of competition never hurt anyone, and the prices may well be affordable for locals too.

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    In The Netherlands, Albert Heijn has a price level slightly above average.
    Quality of the product is good.
    Jumbo has slightly better prices. The Jumbo products are sold by Warehouse.
    The logistics of Albert Heijn are very good.


    The owner told me that he expects to receive many containers per week. So a stable inflow of products seems to be expected.
    The containers come via Curacao.
    I have read stories in local newspapers of double taxation of goods coming via Curacao, but he assured me that this was not the case for the AH products for Bonaire.


    The smaller stores on Bonaire will have a lower overhead than AH. AH might compensate this by their high volume and good logistics.


    @ scubaliz
    You are right that people with local wages won’t be able to buy the high end part of the products of AH.


    But they are also not able to buy a ticket to go on a expensive vacation, eat at “at sea” or go scubadiving.


    In Curacao, many locals have found their way to AH. Probably not because they are willing to pay a premium, but because they find price/quality is good.

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