View Full Version : Suggestions Please

12-22-2012, 09:43 AM
I am looking to buy a video camera to take with us [we have camera] and looking for suggestions from other BT'ers on what they liked and why. 2012 we have the opportunity to make a dive with Freddie and she had a great small unit that worked great, and if not nuts for price might buy myself a Christmas present from Mary [HoHoHo]. Also special cards needed for memory? I recall old post on quality rating on memory cards and will find it sometime before we depart.

Hope all is well with everyone and looking forward to departure in 39 days but not really counting. I really hope to post some pictures this year as between diving, rinsing gear, opening a Polar, taking a nap by the pool I keep so busy on vacation I never get it done! This year I am going to relax, join the Bonaire Country Club and play a round of golf for surface time!

Cornhuskers [Royce & Mary Balak]

PS--don't tell but Santa got Mary new pink Seacure to replace the one she nearly bit thru after swimming with tarpon at salt pier area last year==it was great!

12-22-2012, 10:55 PM
As with all underwater cameras and video cameras the other important piece is light! The more the better. I have seen some great footage shot with a gopro hero2 with the Sola 1200 dive (http://www.lightandmotion.com/underwater/sola1200d.html) I liked it so much I have bought the setup for my wife for Christmas. I don't know much about other cameras, but the gopro shoots 1080p for a great price.

12-23-2012, 05:38 AM
I have two older Amphibico cases for Hi-8 cameras, a Sony and a Canon. This is old technology, very big and bulky and the video resolution isn't up to today's TVs. Still I have hundreds of hours of precious video now converted from tape to DVD. I could buy a Light and Motion Bluefin (and there are several others including Gates) but, looking around, I would agree with Gerald on the GoPro2. My original setup was about $4000 and the Bluefin would be about that price with the camera - the GoPro is less than 10% of that with much higher resolution, no moving parts in the memory, and about 1/3 the size.

I'm hesitating at the moment waiting for a few more reviews. There were grumbles on the sound and case lens that seem to have been corrected. Now, the only "Magic Filter" setup I'm aware of is from Backscatter and it seems a bit bulky.....so that's something I'm waiting on, too.

12-23-2012, 06:02 AM
Royce this is what I have... very similar to the go pro http://www.sarind.com/

12-23-2012, 12:50 PM
Thanks for the help--will check it out and see if Santa wants to put it on my stocking! Promise you we will go down and have a refreshment and toast last year with you at the Divi at sunset.......and yes I will have one for you and one for me!


12-23-2012, 01:45 PM
Freddie, maybe a silly and lazy question but have you posted some Sartek video for us to ooh and ah over? Also, are you using a filter?


12-23-2012, 06:02 PM
not sure if you will be able to see this as it was posted on FB... and it IS on here somewhere.. but here is a video made with the sartek camera..


I was right on this guy.. you can see the trumpet fish gliding by.. the fis were not afraid of me with this little camera..

no filter ..

12-24-2012, 02:05 AM
Wonderful, Freddie. The focus isn't an issue as it is with my units, I suppose because the focus is fixed without zoom. Your unit looks smaller than my wife's G10/FisheyeFIX still system.

12-24-2012, 02:32 AM
Well, Freddie, you got me reading. Of course your camera auto-focuses....it's just doing a good job of it.

These little sport video cameras are perfect for the majority of users

12-24-2012, 04:40 AM
We’ve bought our son a gopro.
Great little camera, that can be used in a couple of feet of water without light.
If you go deeper than that, you will need a light.

I saw great footage of somebody who put a gopro on a tripod in the sand filming a coral head with a lot of fish. So simple, but with wonderful result.

You can attach the same gopro on your helmet or (snow) board or car to fil other activities.

We don’t have a filter, but I’ve heard that a filter gives better results.

In colder water condensation was an issue. When rappelling our guide used a couple of rice grains to absorb the moist.

12-29-2012, 05:33 PM
I just purchased the GoPro Hero 2 camera a couple of weeks before the new GoPro's came out; my bad luck. I had to purchase the underwater housing, and the Magic filter so I could use the camera both snorkeling and diving. With the new GoPro Hero 3 you do not need a special underwater housing.

Some sample videos:
Snorkeling http://youtu.be/mmLltTln15w
Diving: No lights, just using the Magic Filter: http://youtu.be/MroHXSiNZJY

I have a 2 ft pole I mount the camera on, I also have two underwater housings, one dedicated for snorkeling, and one dedicated for diving with the Magic Filter mounted on it.

I am in love with the new camera.

You can find a few other videos taken with the camera: https://www.youtube.com/feed/UCkkAQ3iqbR5WaiHXtzWdGsA/u

Everything taken from two months ago and newer is with the GoPro.

01-04-2013, 09:24 AM
We ended up getting GoPro3 but on their site can find nothing about a Magic Filter? The unit came with multiple back pieces and the one for underwater--I did buy the video screen that hooks in the back so you can see what you are taping. Video looks very good and my estimate is you are 30' + in some of the videos as I know the area you were filming--did you try any taping at the 50-75' range to see how the camera worked without light setup?

Thanks for the response,

Royce & Mary


01-04-2013, 10:46 AM

http://www.backscatter.com is the company that I got the Magic Filter from. It is designed to fit on the GoPro Dive housing for the Hero 2. It is just a red filter. I did not use any lights with the camera. Backscatter is developing a new Magic filter that will fit the Hero 3 housing.

I have not taken video below the 30ft level with this camera, but I have used another camera with a magic filter and it's effectiveness drops off after about 40 feet.

We will be doing another dive at "Something Special" today and I will post the video later today or tomorrow.

01-04-2013, 07:09 PM
Another example of some GoPro underwater video: http://youtu.be/DSl4HFZsYQk


Again, Hero 2 camera in the underwater housing, with the Magic Filter attached. Majority of the video taken at around 35 ft, and it was somewhat overcast on the dive.

01-05-2013, 07:55 AM
colors are pretty good.
The video is not choppy at all. Do you hold the camera directly in your hand or do you have it mounted on something?
My son has the hero2 without Magic Filter. Does the filter give a big improvement?

01-05-2013, 10:08 AM
I just ordered and received this for my 8yr old grandson... If I didn't have a video camera already I would give this a shot for sure.... affordable and easy to use.... http://photojojo.com/store/awesomeness/underwater-digital-camera/ this online store has a lot of goodies...... if you order anything tell them I sent you :) I have nothing to do with this business, but it is the kind of place I would love to work out the website is FUN :)

01-05-2013, 11:51 AM
Excellent find, Freddie. Order placed for our 9 y/o daughter.

01-05-2013, 05:11 PM
colors are pretty good.
The video is not choppy at all. Do you hold the camera directly in your hand or do you have it mounted on something?
My son has the hero2 without Magic Filter. Does the filter give a big improvement?

Rather than hijack this thread I created a new thread that describes my workflow and answers your questions:

01-06-2013, 04:49 PM
When I looked at the web site for Magic Filter it appeared that they simply trimmed the material and fit it over the lens of a camera in a waterproof housing. Do you think this could be done with the GoPro 3? Also I have a Sealife1200 and it would appear that this same technique could be used. Any major faults in my thoughts?


Royce & Mary

01-06-2013, 05:11 PM
I agree that you can do this for the Sealife, I have done it in the past for other point and shoot housings that I have used. For the GoPro Hero 3 I am not sure. I say this because the lens sticks out and you want the filter to sit flat. On the Hero 2 dive housing it looks like I could remove the screws on the front and get the filter into the housing, but I might compromise the waterproofness(not a word!) of the housing. It would also mean that if I wanted to shoot with and without the filter on a dive I would not be able to. It would however be much less expensive than the Backscatter filter. For the money it might be worth a try, especially if you can use some on your other camera. Good luck, and let us know how it turns out if you proceed.

01-08-2013, 12:13 PM
thanks for all the help and I will let you know how pics turn out!